The 419 Scam is the No1 online dating scam, also called a Nigerian scam, but it comes in many forms and not only from Nigeria.
We have all heard about the “please cash my money order or cheque for x millions and you get 10%” letters and emails, well that is a 419 scam.
You may not fall for the big pay day scams but are you savvy enough to avoid the more subtle Nigerian scams?
419 scams are now so prevelent on the internet that a cyber sport has been developed around it, called scambaiting, which involves people tracking and communicating with scammers to frustrate their efforts.
Ways in which a Nigerian or 419 scam works on internet dating sites:
1. Registering Their Profile on a Dating Site
The first hurdle for a scammer is getting a profile registered with an online dating site.
Go to any of the big free dating sites and you will soon spot a scammers profile, it will be in bad English, have a username ending in something like 4u or 4luv and be gushing about love, marriage, having children and finding soulmates.
These are the new recruits but the experienced scammers are far more savvy.
Also they don’t only join free sites, as this scam example shows, trusted sites like Match also have their share of scammers and these will be the better ones as they are making enough money to join the paid sites.
2. Hooking a Victim
Their first message to you will usually be very complimentary, stating the many things you have in common (just about everything) and supplying their email or chat address.
They want to get you off the website and chatting privately as quickly as possible.
Love will be declared very quickly and soon talk of visiting you and marriage will begin.
They will spend building your trust until they are sure they think you are mentally planning a future together.
Often they will begin to refer to you as their husband or wife, long before you have ever even met (not that you are going to meet but the promises will keep coming).
3. Request for Money
Then it starts and can come in a million forms. The requests for money may start small but will grow with time. Here are some of the more common requests:
- Money to buy a phone card so they can call you (the exchange rate is worth the trouble).
- Enough to buy a webcam so you can see them while you talk.
- A family member is in hospital/trouble and they need to quickly borrow money. They will seem embarrassed to have to ask and make gushing assurances about paying it back.
- Flight, visa or translation fee money (all backed up with a travel agents letter setting out the costs and reasons for requiring cash not direct payment). This is so they can come to be with you .. of course at the last moment there is always a reason they can’t actually travel.
- A request to cash a living allowance cheque and send the cash by Western Union .. gosh their employers screwed up again and they can’t cash it at a local bank.
- Cash to get a works project off the ground, they have the job but can’t afford to buy/hire/transport the equipment and the profits from the job will be huge .. of course they’ll pay you back with interest.
- They have been working abroad and the company went bust/fired them/employer attacked them/etc and they need to get home to UK/US/Germany or wherever.
4. A Reason for Everthing
If you become at all suspicious they will have a reason for everything and because you want them to be genuine it will be easy to fall for their explanations.
You will also they find that if they ask for 850 pounds or dollars and you say you can only let them have 400 they will suddenly find a reason that 400 is just enough to cover or they will get the rest from someone else .. even though two days ago you were the only person in the world that could help them.
Don’t think for a moment that only the gullible fall for the Nigerian scam, we discussed this in the post about what an online dating scam is and there are many examples on the net of ordinary intelligent people falling for these dating scams.
If you think you may be chatting to a scammer and want some support then head on over to Romance Scams forum. They have a database of known scammers, their current email addresses and photos of innocent people the scammers use from the internet.
In my next post I will tell you how to investigate and find out if you are chatting on an online dating site to a 419 or Nigerian scammer.
April 4th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Hello,
I have been conversing through email with a woman claiming to be from the US, visiting her grandmother from Malaysia. She hasn’t asked for money yet, but she did as for my log on ID and password to Match.com(didn’t give it to her), then she asked me for my full name – I am not sure why as my email header lists my last name. She repeats over and over in broken english how she wants to be sure that my intentions are true. She has set it up to ask for money, short on cash to come home – unable to call. I am 99% sure, but like another poster wrote it would be nice to have closure. She is going by the name Cathy Tanner and her email is cathtnnr1311@ymail.com. I have pictures that she used.
April 5th, 2011 at 12:18 am
Hi Mike
OK so your username shows your name but she asks for your name and login details. She wants to know if your intentions are true. Indeed women are becoming aware of the romance scams so will ask for name, phone, address in order to try to check your details online.
It may be she wanted to see your Match account to see who else you are contacting .. if so I would run a mile anyway, it gives a clear indication that she has real insecurity issues …. however …
The red flag for you should be her asking for your Match login details … if I had those details it would take about 30 seconds to change your password, locking you out and taking over your Match identity. I could then contact women and get them into Yahoo chat before you had time to close the account with Match.
You already see she is setting you up to ask for money … wait for the money request and you then have your closure.
It’s not possible to find out if someone is genuine through just an email address, they take 2 minutes to set up and don’t require any form of id. If you have more details for her (phone number, address, etc) you can use the Ask A Dating Question link at the top of this blog and send me the details, I will have a dig around for you.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Many of these scammers will stop at NOTHING I spent a whole year chatting with one in less than 6 Months the man went and got a tattoo of my name on him yes it was my real first name with a few extra letters (LMAO) he had a child that I came to care for but never for him he NEVER asked me for money however I couldnt understand how he and I were all of a sudden engaged heck I never knew we were even in a relationship.
One evening while chatting with him it all became clear he was seeking a one way trip to the US via me and at my expensenot knowing that I was well versed on scammers I let him go on and on for Months and made promises I knew I had no intention of keeping.he thenn sent me an im explaining that he was engaged to an American Woman and going to remove the tattoo I told him good for you,you are finally going to get what you wanted a free trip to the USA at some poor womans expense and you will behave until you get citizenship and then her nightmare will begin I was Happy for him.He then called me after I asked him to leave myself and my family alone I congratulated him but he called again and this time my Husband answered my prepaid cell (which my Husband knew about this scammer) and it wasn’t nice.
So be aware that they will stop at NOTHING to get what they want and will jump through hoops for the promise of a few dollars
April 26th, 2011 at 8:31 am
girlsdateforfree
Had this email from 2 different people and this was my reply
Hello
I am sorry but alarm bells ring when I get this type of response from people, the amount of single men from the USA attached to the US army in Iraq, all looking for love in the UK either because they are from here or one of their parents are… seems like the US army is doing something very wrong as it’s full of lonely hearts. Also most have children, who live with other people back in the states….. forgive me for my sceptic attitude. I have no money, I am not about to give any finacial aid to anyone, I don’t have the capital and my own family are far more improtant to me. So if this is another scam, and yes on this site I have encountered a few…. thanks but no thanks you are wasting both your time and mine and time is a very valuable item.
Deborah
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From: geo.lucas@live.com
To:
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:01:58 +0100
Hello Deborah,
How are you today? I hope you are enjoying your easter weekend. Thank you for your compliments about my photo.
A little about me, well am originally American born in England and lived there until i was 17 as my father was American and my mother was English so that is why i have dual citizenship being American and English. I attended California State Uni. at 17 years old and my father passed away when i was 18 so my mother was a single mother. Came to London and fell in love with the place so decided to stay there when i am not working so yes i was in London before i went to Iraq and that is why i am returning back to London after my retirement in 3weeks. To further spell out the nature of my occupation, I am a civil engineer and work for the US army currently in Iraq. I have been here for the past 11 months and i have just up to 23days more till i return home to London.
When i return home, i plan on staying for a very long time just to unwind and adapt back to civilian life which i will take slow and easy and then plan on setting up my own business but not rushing things at all. I want to settle down and have my life organized perhaps with the woman of my dreams before going there.
I am 61 years old. I am a widower since 2004 with one adopted son who is just 17 and i love and miss so much.
I consider myself shy but i have a very great sense of humor, trust worthy, genuine and i am looking for someone like that too to spend the rest of my life with. Someone i can love and cherish and call mine. I am very romantic, open minded, optimistic person and i think it’s not fun to have fun alone. I like to swim, bike around town on my Harley, play tennis and golf, go to the stadium to watch a professional sporting event or to the movies to watch popular new movie. I love to travel, fish, camp and all the outdoors but as i said they are best done with someone special that you love.
please tell me, How long have you been on that site and are you on any other site? What are you looking for in a man or in a relationship? Please know that i am an open book to you and you can ask me any question that you like and i will be more than glad to answer
I hope to hear from you again. Have a great day.
Hugs and kisses,
George. xx
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Hi
A little about me, well am originally American born in England and lived there until i was 17 as my father was American and my mother was English so that is why i have dual citizenship being American and English. I attended California State Uni. at 17 years old and my father passed away when i was 18 so my mother was a single mother. Came to London and fell in love with the place so decided to stay there when i am not working so yes i was in London before i went to Iraq and that is why i am returning back to London after my retirement in 3weeks. To further spell out the nature of my occupation, I am a civil engineer and work for the US army currently in Iraq. I have been here for the past 11 months and i have just up to 23 days more till i return home to London.
When i return home, i plan on staying for a very long time just to unwind and adapt back to civilian life which i will take slow and easy and then plan on setting up my own business but not rushing things at all. I want to settle down and have my life organized perhaps with the woman of my dreams before going there.
I am 56 years old. I am a widower since 2004 with one adopted son who is just 17 and i love and miss so much.
I consider myself shy but i have a very great sense of humor, trust worthy, genuine and i am looking for someone like that too to spend the rest of my life with. Someone i can love and cherish and call mine. I am very romantic, open minded, optimistic person and i think it’s not fun to have fun alone. I like to swim, bike around town on my Harley, play tennis and golf, go to the stadium to watch a professional sporting event or to the movies to watch popular new movie. I love to travel, fish, camp and all the outdoors but as i said they are best done with someone special that you love.
please tell me, How long have you been on that site and are you on any other site? What are you looking for in a man or in a relationship? Please know that i am an open book to you and you can ask me any question that you like and i will be more than glad to answer
I hope to hear from you again. Have a great day.
Hugs and kisses,
Robert. xx
April 26th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Hi Debbie
Thanks for sharing … love your response!!
June 12th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Yes just been scammed by George Lucas tonight, he is using a picture of a General Wesley Clark an american author. Look him up in Wikipedia and Flicker. As soon as he asked me for money to buy his flight ticket home as he was unable to access cash, I knew it was a scam. Bye Bye George. He sent me exact same letters. Bastard.
June 7th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
I was a victim of a scam.
I tell you my story now. I live in Austria. At the end of march an “Us Army” “Sgt. Darby Raymond”, who is currently on Facebook, wrote me a message on Fb. We wrote messages back and forth and it developed a love affair online. I always was suspicious, but this time i trusted….he made his job good…. I payed a lot of money for him per Western union.(about 15025 Usd)…. for Ts2-Connection, for Leave Form, for Next of Kin-Registration, for his Lawyer in Nigeria, Lagos, where he was.I want, who the man is on the pics, he sent me and I want to have adresses or telephone numbers, where i can make a report… I have also another name, from whom I think, he´s a scammer: Robert Jenkins, he say , he is from san Fransisco and is an Us Army in Afghanistan…….please Sally I need help…regards Sabine
June 7th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Hi Sabine
Sorry to hear you have been a victim of a scam. Almost all victims want to find the real man in the photos but it simply isn’t possible, sorry I can’t help with that.
June 8th, 2011 at 6:29 am
And where I can make a report ? In Austria the police is to slowly… I want to make a report by a ploice or anything else like that…?
It hurts so much…I never did it before, but now I have to accept my situation…I had contact with the EFCC(Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, but after the second mail, they said, I should send 400€ to the same man via Western Union to trap the scammer and i´ll be able to cancel the payment and get the money back at the same day. But I didn´t pay anything more.But i´m jolly well fed up.
June 8th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
You need to go through your countries police Sabine. Yes they are slow but it is the only real route. Don’t you have a serious fraud office in your police? They tend to be more understanding and willing to help (well here in the UK anyway).
June 8th, 2011 at 8:13 am
sh*t i had a girl claiming to be from ohio.she said shes in africa with a friend who up and left her with no money.so i did think about helpin but i thought 1st i would try an contact the embassy.lol then i saw all these links about this scam.
June 8th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Glad you found them Anonymous and hope you don’t consider sending any money. It’s a scam!!
June 10th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Those things are a trip!i recently joined this site and six hours later I had about ten responces,,,,they all left their email addresses,because they wanted to get to know me better,but not through the site.i was flattered at first by all the beautiful women,but the more and more I read,the more suspicious I became.they all shared the same story,,,u.s.born butliving in africa or something,but the thing that made me really suspicious was the broken english.this one girl who said that she was born and raised in cali,,,had some college education,but was having some hard times,wrote terrible letters…i mean trying to read them was like trying to communicate with the arab,or african at the corner store!,and they all read about the same,,,i even got the very same letter from two different girls!
June 10th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Hi Scarface
So pleased you realised before you got caught up in it and well done on picking up the red flags (wanting to talk immeditately off the site, broken English, same story).
Not all scammers are so simplistic and easy to detect so please just take it slowly with anyone you chat with and nose around to check they are who they say they are before you get emotionally involved.
June 12th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
I’ve actually taken to documenting this on my blog mostly because I think it’s hilarious (www.johnfinkfilms.com) – - I promise I’m not going to fall in love with you, ask for your hand in marriage and tell you to wire me money. It’s funny to me that I can basically waste their time and energy, normally I give them a to the American Embassy’s webpage and tell them it’s fortunate they have internet access and they should contact the Embassy for help – that’s what its there for. I think what’s fascinating and useful for someone like me who is working on a masters in media study is how they are constructing the idea women to target a single man like myself: I don’t want someone who reads the bible constantly and whose heart is full of joy and music. I don’t want a strange to relocate to be with me, that’s just creepy. If anything a needy (yet attractive “professional model”) doesn’t set a good tone for a relationship at all. I should also mention this is all on myspace – I get two e-mails a day from these types of people and it’s hilarious. This American Life also had a story about a group of guys who fought back against a scammer and took him on a 20-day adventure into the middle of nowhere. If we all fight back like this, they will have no choice but to end this behavior. If anything this is also interesting because the fake profiles for scammers and the re-directs to sex site is the reason Facebook overtook MySpace, Facebook never allows it. Myspace as a result has become a zombie network and what more exciting place to play than a zombie web space.
June 24th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Yep George Lucas has written me the same message..
What a f*cking SH*T!!!
June 27th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Hi
I have just been taken down by a scammer – if I had just thought properlyabout it it should have been obvious but I had just lost a good friend and was very vulnerable. I have given him money in Nigeria through Western Union – stupid – yes very.
I am still intouch with him and and determined to bring him down . I also have another one that is in touch through the same web-site (which I would prefer not to mention because I don’t want to put people off – I have made very good friends through there – it is just seeing through these people – but I know all the signs now – classic good looking tall dark handsome men – falling in love with you very quickly and yes thier english is terrible – that should have been a warning. There is nothing that these people won’t say – I have two of them on the go now and I will string them along for as long as I can – I just want to find out all the moves and report back so that any woman or man does not fall into this trap.
If you want any more info please come back to me – I will keep you informed of progress – I worked for a very large UK newspaper and intent to get this reported as soon as I can.
July 1st, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Hi Anon
Any publicity we can bring to this issue is a great help in getting women to understand what signs to look for. Scam baiting is so much fun, enjoy your time
July 1st, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Thanks for getting back to me – i am on my fifth one now – hopefully I know all the signs now – but they seem to be changing thier tact a little – i will keep any girl away from these people if I can -or men if I can – just getting all the info together then will write an article AND HELP STOP THIS HAPPENING – they will tell you anything – now moving from construction projects to military and now the best – a diamond merchant!!!! – oh dear it is sort of embarrassing isn’t it – but the one give away – they can never speak English – Anon – will keep you posted
June 29th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Hi
I’m concerned about being scammed by an army officer. He emails me via a yahoo account, but also sends me email using **********@army.mod.uk. Does anyone know whether this is a valid army address or just one he’s made up? I Cannot reply to this address either.
Thanks
July 1st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Hi Katie
I have taken out his email address as @army.mod.uk IS a valid email for the British army and cannot be faked … providing the email address actually works. So when he sends emails from this account do they actually show this email address as the sender and what do you mean you can’t reply to them (what error message do you get?).
July 1st, 2011 at 7:20 pm
If I try & reply I to the message I receive a
does That help
Katie
July 1st, 2011 at 8:21 pm
receive a what Katie? Might be better if you use the link at the top of the blog and send me his details.
July 3rd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Hi Sally
There’s a copy of his “ID” on the internet. The link is where to find it and related comments.
http://www.arrse.co.uk/naafi-bar/162820-walt-true-identity-wanted.html
I asked him about the”id” he said it was his & with all the correct information on it. It was shortly after he started to get very angry & asked me to delete everything he had sent me. if I didn’t I would have to suffer the consequences.
I have also copied the message he sent to me, 10 hours after he had asked me to delete him from my life
I hope this is of some use to you as I don’t understand what he wanted from me. As being a “Major General” he would have more than enough money to get home.
MESSAGE:
From patrick.m.kingman@army.mod.uk
Subject Taliban suicide bombers attack on Inter-Continental hotel
Sent 29-06-2011
My Dear,
I urgently write to update you from the British MOD headquarter here about the recent Taliban suicide bombers attack on Inter-Continental hotel.
As a result of this, we the British Army here have been extremely busy, as report may have it at least 10 people were killed when heavily-armed Taliban suicide bombers attacked one of the main international hotels here in Kabul. The insurgents made their last stand on the hotel rooftop, engulfing the top floor in flames and detonating bomb vests as Black Hawk helicopters fired at them with machine guns and rockets. We were engaged in battle together with the Afghan security forces we trained, after four hours of sporadic fighting, Black Hawk helicopters staged successive air assaults, circling around the hotel and firing down with machine guns. About suicide bombers fired at the choppers and detonated their explosives. Massive concussive blasts flashed orange and hurtled shrapnel in all directions. The helicopters pounded the flaming rooftop with rockets, ending the melee. Ambulances and fire crews then raced up the hill to retrieve the dead and wounded. Two of my men got!
bullet, in the process but were rushed to the Hospital.
Major General Patrick Murphy Kingman
The UK Ministry of Defence (MOD) is the operating authority for the official http://www.army.mod.uk domain name. All MOD information systems are liable to a recording and monitoring regime intended to maintain security and to ensure that Army internet services remain available to all users (Army). This Army website is published under the authority of the Secretary of State for Defence, and contains information duly sanctioned for release to the general public. It is subject to the copyright regulations laid down in this site. Unauthorized attempts to change information on these services are strictly prohibited and are punishable under the Computer Misuse Act 1990.
July 4th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Oh Lord Katie that is one of the worst photoshop attempts at a military ID I have seen … not the worst certainly but getting near the top of the list.
Even if he was a Major General (which he isn’t) he wouldn’t need a penny to get home. The UK military do NOT send troops to war zones and then tell themselves to get back home under their own steam.
I am not going to point out all the things wrong with the ID because am not here to teach scammers their trade but let’s just say it is not a UK army ID and just look for the obvious spelling mistakes and slanted wording where they can’t even use photoshop well enough to get it on a straight line!!!
Pathetic.
Scammers will usually try the “suffer the cosequences” BS, just ignore such stupid threats they are designed to make people panic and pay up.
Simple answer to your question of what he wants from you is …. MONEY.
July 4th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Hi to all
This seems to me to be an uphill battle – but it can be won – now have a guy who claims to run an orphange in South Africa on my case wanting money to pay for his internet – an I-pod for his bithday which is in 2 weeks – and oh yes a manchester united shirt (signed of course!)
Also a Neuro surgeon from Texas – but he forgets where he lives sometimes especially as he didn’t know about the 4th of July.
I find this all very sad indeed
Anon (UK)
July 4th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Thanks for that Sally.
His ID was the only thing I could find out about him & that took a bit of searching. Hopefully this site will make it easier for other people to be made aware of his false intentions.
Katie
July 8th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Hi,
I too have been contacted by “Major Gen Patrick Murphy Kingman”. I thought immediately it was a scam & have been stringing it along while trying to check ‘him’ out so I’m glad to have found this site which has proved I was right.
I received the identical mail about the Inter-Continental hotel from him.
I have now been contacted by another “US Military” man, similar story. Seemingly good looking , British background, 2 kids, wife died in an auto accident, looking to ‘retire’ from the military with the wife of his dreams soon blah, blah.
I am appalled at this & feel very sad for those who get taken in by it. I just hope that sites like this will help to publicise these scams & put a stop to the despicable people behind it.
Sue
July 9th, 2011 at 1:52 am
Just recently separated from a 4-year marriage. Signed up for an online dating site. Young girl claiming to be from Chicago tells me she is NIGERIA (home of the 419 as I just learned). Claims her dad just died and was over there because he was on the board of directors for some big oil company. Needless to say, the exact description of the scam mentioned on this page began to unfold. She sent me 3 photos of “her”, absolutely breathtaking. Started talking thru IM and we declared our love for each other. She told me she needed $520 to pay the hotel bill. Then she needed another $100 for cab fare to the airport. Like an ASS, I sent to money to her. We talked about marriage and having kids. Made it sound so believeable. Then, just today, she tells me she’s at the airport and needs $1,850 for “safety precautions” that she would pay me back when she got to me. I told her no way and just like that, she stopped the IM and took off.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Hi Dan
Sorry you got scammed, it’s such a common story. All you can do is read about scams, learn and move on.
August 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
I have just had a narrow escape. Joined a site and my first contact was from a ‘Dutch’ guy called Joey. Seemed very friendly and very plausible. Exchanged emails and then we ‘talked’ through IM but I thought it strange that he never commented on day to day things. He (apparently) lived in Wales and dealt with gem stones and artifacts and was off to Nigeria for a couple of weeks for business. During this time he grew very intense.Asked for my mobile number and said he would call. Apparently he did call but left a text message. Because of all the declarations I thought he would not mind if I called him back…. awakening time. He was really flustered and did not know who I was so I put the phone down. Next day he is on IM again saying he cannot get out of the country as the Customs & Revenue have doubled the duty payable on his items and asked if I could lend him £800. I was very polite and said I did not have that sort of money and instantly came out of IM. I have since had another text message but I have blocked all emails.
I don’t consider myself stupid but it was all so plausible. Thank goodness I did not send any money.
August 19th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Hi Dee
So pleased you realised in time. That is the problem with scammers, their stories are so plausible and they say everything a woman has dreamed of hearing.
Find a dating site that only allows members from your own country .. it’s not as exciting and it’s not a guarantee but it seriously limits the activities of scammers and there is more chance of actually meeting the person you are talking to.
August 26th, 2011 at 2:37 am
Hey Dee, I have the same tale, met him through RSVP (Australia) almost about the same time that you were speaking to this person (June to August) He said he lived in Cairns but was going overseas on business, he dealt in gemstones. He then was trapped in Malaysia as the excise duty had been increased and he did not have sufficient funds to cover the payment and could not leave the country.
This guy talked in big $$’s, he needed $185,000 to get out of the country and a business partner. I actually really liked him but far too many conflicting things made my alarm bells go off. I became a detective and demanded lots of information, some came through but never able to confirm everything. Family names, daughter and parents, lawyers name and where his practice was, where he was living and managers name of the apartments, copy of the gemstone purchase and excise receipts.
I watch a lot of crime shows LOL. Also the context of sentences and language was not quite right. I spoke to him several times and he did not sound like the Englishman he was meant to be. I even emailed a copy of an online dating scammers profile to him, he just brushed off and said it was up to me to believe it or not.
The hard part is not just feeling gullible but I actually liked him, guess that is the whole point really.
It would be interesting to know your persons name.
Drop me a line for a chat.
He was the only person I have ever spoken to on a dating site and I have to get scammed how unlucky is that.
regards
Rae
August 26th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Hi Rae
This guy called himself Joey Ewoud – on Facebook as Joey Vogel Ewoud BUT no picture. I had previously looked on Facebook when contact was first made though and there WAS a Joey Ewoud living in Australia!!!!
Like you the only person I have ever spoken to on a dating site. To say I have been put off is an understatement.
Best wishes
Dee
August 19th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I can’t stand around and see all this crap being written about these users who are using pictures of my wife illegally. Due to privacy concerns for my wife Alison I am not revealing any last names here. My wife is/was the original Alison Angel//Christie Caudill. Since she left the internet porn modeling business a few years ago she has no connection whatsoever with FTV nor SOLOGALS nor any site at all and that includes Facebook, MYSPACE and NETLOG etc.. All pictures of her on the internet are many years old. There haven’t been new pictures taken of her in the last five years. Well there have but I am the only one who has them as they are family photos of her, our children and I. Anyone who comes across a person who has her picture is a fraud. Any website that states that they have updated pictures of her is a fraud. Any facebook pages that has the Alison Angel, Angel Alison, Alicia Alison, Ashley Alison or Christie Caudill name is a fraud. That goes for MYSPACE as well as NETLOG etc.. Please spread the word that anyone who has pictures of Alison is a fraud. I was told by a friend that activity of using Alison’s pictures has increased on the net and I had to check for myself and am now seeing he was correct. Unbelievable that this crap is still going on. Anything coming out of Africa is a scam and it does not matter what it is.
August 29th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
This guy John Robert (s) bobert53@hotmail.com now working under the name John Cooper told me he was from the UK, his wife passed away three years ago and that he didnt have any kids. He will keep up profiles for ca 1 week with every time different pictures, but if you look good enough you will be able to see it is him. You will find him back on Meet, Badoo, Zoosk and i am sure many more. Went on a business trip to NY than had to pick up his checks in Lagos South Afrika, because the German company didnt pay him.
Stupid enough I did send money. A small amount to NY via Western Union. He never picked that up???? When he got to Lagos he said he needed money again to clear his checks and to pay the taxes. I send 1500 euro’s, that amount he did pick up? Probably with a fake passport or something, because when you send money thru WU to South Afrika you either have to have a bank account there or take someone with you that can verify you identity. I thought it was safe because the security for WU in those countries are tight. I guess not tight enough?
He got his clearance to leave the country but than asked for money again for his ticket and hotel bills? So if you get into contact with this guy, dont send money? he scams people, and is probably still stuck in Lagos yea right. Unbelievable how low people can get to scam people.
I came across other websites and posts from other women that he also tried to con. He will change his story some times but it comes down to pretty much te same. Check his ip adres because it will be from Zweden Stockholm.
Sad to say but nothing but a lowlife scum bag.
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August 30th, 2011 at 3:10 am
I’m no fool, but boy those guys can be good.
I’m pretty sure I’m being scammed my Daniel Fern (Fernandez) All the classic stuff. Can’t speak English, steals love notes from the internet, loves me more than himself (after a week) is currently in Malaysia buying antiques, needed money because credit card was stolen, (NO I DID NOT SEND HIM MONEY), wants to be with me for the rest of my life, tells me everything I want to hear,it goes on.
Has a home in Rochester, MN
Let my heart believe. Damn that hurts. Well didn’t lose anything except time, and a little self respect.